Anthony W. Allsop (Genesis)

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Miss it at your peril.

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Pascal’s Wager? Phooey!!

God(s) do not exist, - except in the mind of the gullible. They never have and they never will.

Man imagined gods and therefore these imagined Gods are secondary to Man and not masters to be blindly obeyed. We should ignore any propensity to follow like sheep those who swear by their particular imagined god.

As for death. Death becomes each and everyone of us, it's a fact of life. When we die, that's it, we are dead. We only live on in the memories of the living.

Amen.
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I've just looked up the word "Cretin" in my dictionary: someone mentally deficient by birth [synonyms] half-wit; idiot; imbecile, moron; retard; simpleton; subnormal; theist [a believer in deities*]

OK, I added that last one, but only because it had obviously been missed out.

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Childhood conditioning has EVERYTHING to do with belief in EVERYTHING, including gods, fairies and the afterlife. That's what children's brains are for.

The baby's brain is a virtual blank canvas on which the adult attempts to paint the very same picture that HIS/HER canvas contains. The growing child's brain takes on this information whether it be right or wrong. This is mostly OK. We teach them to walk, talk, write, do arithmetic, wipe their own backside and eat with utensils etc. But we should NOT teach them rumour and false stories about gods. This can be very damaging when taken to the extreme.

Children can be taught the difference between right and wrong without resorting to threats that the Bogey Man/God will come and punish them if they don't behave.
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I wish more people of note would be prepared to come out of the closet, speak their minds and bugger the feared consequences. If - let's say - our UK Queen and the U.S president were to "come out" and admit that the holy books are plainly hysterical fiction populated by a few historical facts, more people would sit up, take note and rethink.
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"Let he without sin cast the first stone."
Maybe those who abide by and support Shari Law should take note.
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A true theist's eyes are focussed on heaven and yet they SEE nothing. The eyes of an atheist are focussed beyond heaven and see things much more clearly.
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We don't need to SEE something in order to believe in it. We merely have to study the effect. Think magnetism; electricity; wind; gravity; love; pain; heat; worry; pity; and some others that I cannot at the moment "not see".
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Today is 22-05-2011 and The Rapture was a damp squib.

Of course, when it's realised that we are still here this rainy Sunday morning there'll be the excuses.

The 1st excuse will be: "Ah used imperial meashiments instead o' metrics. NIXT tahm ah'll git it raight, yorl."

Or maybe: "I spilt some corffee on mah barbul an ah faarnd it ard tah read through mah tears."
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Because I'm a caring person I hate all scams, especially those that take people for fools and those that take peoples' money. God based religions are the biggest scams of the lot. It's a pity some can't see that.
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It should make anyone ponder a while when it's been realised that the light that we now see being emitted from the furthest galaxies in our universe began its journey (at 186,282.4 miles per second), some 13.23 MILLION years ago.

The Biblical account of creation makes our Earth and everything outside our Earth a paltry six and a half thousand years old.

Now THAT'S Magic!
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And on the sixth day, God created MAN, The Acme of Creation?

So, after creating all the lesser animals, God came up with his ultimate creation. MAN.

Or did he?

Now anyone would think (well I would) that MAN, being the acme of God's work, would be made of the best stuff. The best design incorporating the best aspects and materials of what had gone before. Not only would MAN have the most developed brain, MAN would be stronger and more hardy than any other animal previous to that point. Not only would MAN be brainier, MAN would be fleeter of foot, sharper of eye, keener of hearing and be able to converse readily with any other of his species.

MAN could have had the strength of chimpanzee, for instance. Even the average sized chimpanzee would be more than a match for the average sized man.

MAN could have been as hardy as an emperor penguin, able to stand the coldest that the weather could offer, but he would also be able to stand the full force of the sun like the desert camel.

Being able to run with the speed of an ostrich over distance (30mph) would be far better to escape our predators or to catch our prey than the meagre pace of the fastest human long distance runner (15mph).

The eyes of a tiger or maybe those of the barn owl complete with a head that can turn through 360 degrees would be far more apt for the master race than the weak eyes that we have been give. Tigers, others of the feline family and owls can see in the dark with their infra red vision. A hawk's eyes would give us greater distance vision, too, so maybe an amalgam of the two.

Our hearing would be better if our creator had used that of the marmoset monkey or even the domestic cat.

As for our sense of smell, it's almost none existent. The average dog has a sense of smell a 100 times better than any human. But even MAN'S best friend pales into insignificance at the side of the brown bear which has a sense of smell over 2000 times better than we humans. We could even have been equipped to smell fear.

And why do our women have to carry the weight of a growing child around with them for many months when an egg or two could be laid and hatched quite readily in the home by either partner?

On top of all this MAN should also be able to swim like a dolphin, breath under water like a fish and soar like an eagle.

Creator? Pah! I could have made a better job of it myself.
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We should never fear God but we should be fearful of/for those that do.
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Theists have been fooled into fooling themselves.
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A fool and his money are soon parted, but a fool and his god take a lot of separating.
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Someone just advised me that it is never too late to seek God. Ahem!

If I were to spend the rest of my life in search of god I STILL would be without god. Not only that but if I DID "find him(?)" I would be as mentally disturbed as the rest of the bible thumpers.
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The good book lies from front to back
For it was writ by some old hack
I pray that soon the truth be known
On that I know I'm not alone
For in those scriptures lurking deep
A hoax is rife its lie to keep
One day soon the truth will out
Of that I feel there is no doubt
From Genesis through Psalms and Revelations too
It's hate, it's murder, it's pornography blue.
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Cats have a sixth sense. The trouble is ... they hardly ever use the other five.

And talking of cats: They have NINE lives, so does this mean they have NINE afterlives?

If this IS so, then that "other place" they keep going on about is going to smell to high heaven of cat piss!
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Under Islamic law EVERYONE who doesn't believe that Allah is the one and only god and that HE alone must be obeyed; prayed to and given zakat (a direct tax to fund that religion ((for the upkeep and the building of mosques and the propagation of Islam)), and to help the needy AND to pay for the collectors and the collection of zakat) is going to Hell in a handcart. EVERYONEOF THEM !! That even means those who only pretend to be Muslim in an attempt to avoid the sulphuric fires of hell in eternal damnation. There's no dodging it 'cos Allah knows all and sees all.

So that's about 90+ percent of the world's population who are destined to burn for ever in the fires of hell!!!

Oh what a lovely god is this Allah chappie.
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The "believer" is prepared and willing to believe the unbelievable and yet is unprepared or unwilling to believe the honest truth.
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To ensure he is seen by the crowds the pope sits in the turret of his Popemobile, surrounded on all sides by plates of three-inch plastic glass, which are strong enough to withstand explosives and high velocity bullets.
To keep him safe, the Popemobile is also equipped with Kevlar-plated door panels, and a half-inch thick plate of steel under the car as protection against bombs. The pope's car also boasts air filters to protect the occupants against chemical and biological attacks. Why?
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God hasn't created anything. We have the Flying Pink Spaghetti Monster to thank for all that we see around us.

Now let them prove me wrong.
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So we are ALL destined to burn forever in the fiery pit of hell whether we follow: Atheism; Bábism; Bahá'í Faith; Christianity; Catholicism; Protestantism; Gnosticism; Islam (if they are pretending) Judaism; Rastafarianism; Mandaeans and Sa...bians; Samaritanism; Unitarian Universalism; Ayyavazhi; Bhakti Movement; Buddhism; Din-i-Ilahi; Hinduism; Jainism; Sikhism; Manichaeism; Mazdakism; Mithraism; Yazdânism; Zoroastrianism; East Asian religions; Confucianism; Shinto; Taoism; Historical polytheism; Indo-European; Hellenistic; Neopaganism; New Age; Esotericism and mysticism; Occult and magical; Left-Hand Path; Creativity; New Thought; Shinshukyo; Fictional religions; Parody or mock religions; and maybe a few more that escape me at the moment.

By what if Allah ISN'T the one and only TRUE god? It's all a bit silly really, isn't it?
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Doug McLeod once noted: "I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence."

I would add that cathedrals, mosques, minarets, temples, synagogues and most other high and mighty places of worship also take precautions against lightning storm and tempest.

God really is a pain, isn't he? All this expenditure on these needlessly opulent places of worship - PLUS this added expense due to powers that SHOULD be under their control - could be put to much better use, like feeding the hungry and housing the homeless.
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Other people's misfortune is there to make us laugh. That's why God gave us the banana skin.
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And the Evolutionist sayeth of the Creationists:

"Darwin forgive them, for they knoweth not what they are talking about."
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The reason we were taught to close our eyes in prayer was to block out fact and common sense.
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Never underestimate just how utterly stupid the pious can be.
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"Seeing" God and ghosts and "Hearing voices", merely demonstrates the frailty of the human mind.
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The theist can appeal to nothing absolute, nothing objectively true for all people, it is just mere opinion enforced by might.

(With appology to Peter Huff)
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There is FAR more evidence that the biblical account of creation is - to say the least - erroneous. Whilst the evidence for evolution is abundant - to those who are willing to look.
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In the beginning was there nothing..

...and then.

From what I've gathered, life began here on Earth about a billion years after our sun was created, our Earth being remnants of the sun, around four and a half to five billion years ago. That would be around nine billion years after the birth of the universe OR 14,000,000,000 Before Christ.

At the time of life kicking off on Earth; water, wind, fire and electrical energy had been around on the Earth for about 1,000,000,000 years with no life whatsoever. And then, purely by accident, a few atoms collided at the bottom of some ocean and by chance formed a cell. That single cell cloned itself and before we knew where we were the seas were abundant with single cell creatures producing gazillions of themselves willy-nilly.

Another 1,000,000,000 years passed and one day two single cell creatures accidentally became stuck together and resulted in a double cell organism. More millions of years later those twin cell organisms got together and created the multi-cell organisms that began to dominate the seas. They were only tiny organisms, a bit like spots of jelly, but the Earth was still very young yet.

Another 1,000,000,000 years pass and during that time some of these multi-cell creatures became a little bigger and because of the enormous amount of time available the evolutionary process allowed some of these organisms to develop in various ways to either protect themselves or to help them find food. Some developed rudimentary "eyes" that allowed them to differentiate between light and dark, over the many millenia these became more and more sophisticated, whilst others developed an external carapace/shell for protection. A billion years pass by and we now have a variety of life in the seas, but nothing on land.

But we do have a form of plant that has developed along the way and it dominates the deep seas. Other plants, through natural selection, make best use of shallower waters and before long one has developed to live above the waterline. This process continues for the next few hundred million years and these plants, along with those that flourish in the seas, produce an abundant supply of oxygen.

We now have almost ideal conditions for the land to be colonised by creatures from the sea who have rudimentary skeletons. Bony structures that will allow them to negotiate on land. Others take the form of snakes etc.

Exactly the same sort of evolutionary processes get to work during the next few hundred million years and before long the giant lizards are masters of the world. They rule for a few hundred million years and then.... CALAMITY!!

The Earth is struck by a giant meteorite. The Earth has been peppered by giant meteorites since its inception, but this one was one real humdinger that caused havoc on Earth. Many species of plants and animals etc were wiped out immediately while others were either starved to death during the "sort of" nuclear winter which lasted for at least a dozen years.

But not to worry. This left the Earth open to colonisation by the smaller and more hardy animals. MAMMALS. Their food supply would have been the rotting vegetation and the corpses of other less fortunate creature, and of course, the insects and a few birds that are direct descendants of those giant lizards.

More millions of years pass by and animals, birds, fish plants and the mammals have branched off on the various branches and twigs of life that we call EVOLUTION.

The primates are one branch of evolution and they branched off some 50,000,000 years ago. About 49,000,000 years down that line WE began to evolve. It may have been some slightly genetic accident that some family of ape developed an opposable thumb which allowed it more dexterity than its cousins and could thus make the most use of tools for gathering food etc. Maybe rudimentary weapons such as spears and clubs.

And so, further along that branch we come eventually to Modern Man. He arrived about 50,000 years ago. With his bigger brain and cuter imagination and the fear of the unknown. Along with writing, reading and arithmetic, Modern Man developed gods.

So, there you have it. Someone asked the question and I've taken the time and trouble to answer it.
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All god based religion is propaganda.
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To any theist who has recently passed away I'd just like to say: "I told you so." They obviously won't get this message but at least the thought was there.
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MAN was supposedly created in God's image. So maybe God has been circumcised, enjoys a pint or two and worships his favorite football team.
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If we had always followed the majority opinion: our Earth would still be regarded as a flat plane and we would never have planned to venture beyond the horizon for fear of falling off.
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Propagandism: OED def: the practice of spreading tenets or principles in order to sway opinion. [I supposed this would - by rote - have to include the science of evolution AND atheism] Bugger!!!
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One should never judge a book by its cover, unless it has the word HOLY or TESTAMENT in the title. [;¬)
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Let's quit using the term Atheist, it smacks of recognising that Theism exists. Let's adopt the more pleasing term REALIST. I for one am a realist, not a fantasist.
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We are all of us animals, neath the skin.
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Being atheist is like buying a lottery ticket whilst knowing that there's about as much chance of landing the jackpot as there is of a theist reading a book on evolution and developing rational thought on the subject.
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I'm an atheist but I'm NOT anti theist! I only feel sorry for them.

They've had their brains so manipulated and filled with rubbish that they are akin to zombies: and that isn't THEIR fault but the fault of the society they were brought up in.

I was fortunate and managed to escape the clutches of goddists. I now worship at the altar of family. My family, friends and neighbours are more important to me than any imagined god.

I wouldn't give ANY (and there are many) god(s) the time of day 'cos every minute spent in prayer is a minute wasted and our time on Earth is short and precious.
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What the "L", I confess I worship GOLD.
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The theist, in the most simplistic of terms, says: "I have a problem believing that nothing created something! I find it much easier to believe that something created something out of nothing!"

Which leads me to ask the question: "What or who created that something that created something out of nothing?"
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The main difference between us and our "lower" primate ancestry is our means of communication.
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Wouldn't it be a great idea to have a minimum age of consent for the imbibing of religion? Twenty-one sounds about right.
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Illic est haud deus , illic est haud filius of deus , illic nunquam eram ullus deus.

There is no god, there is no son of god, there never was any god.
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God does not exist. I'd stake my afterlife on it.
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I (with a little help from my fellow man) can move mountains. God - left on his own - cannot move even a molehill.
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If one is blind to evolution then one is blind to fact.
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I keep getting that same old question on my stance as an atheist/realist:

"How do you KNOW that God(s) don't exist?"

I answer; "Because I have FAITH in my own reasoning."
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You shall obey ze orders!

And God spoke all these words, saying: I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. (Improvement there then.)

1.You shall have no other gods before me. (So there ARE other gods!"

2.You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. (Crosses are crossed off the list, too.)

3.You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. (What? Even when I hit my thumb with the hammer?)

4.Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. (Great!! No more Sunday shopping. No more Sunday sport. No more Sunday television. Hospitals closed, police at home, crime higher, cows bloated with milk, ocean going vessels stationary and adrift, planes falling from the sky, fires raging, women giving birth on their own etc, etc, etc,.)

5.Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you. (True, to a point. My mum left me and my sisters when we were kids.)

6.You shall not murder. (No, but YOU can, can't you God.)

7.You shall not commit adultery. (No, but YOU can, can't you God.)

8.You shall not steal. (Correct!)

9.You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. (I agree with that one, too.)

10.You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s. (No but you can, can't you........)

Just a thought.

The 4000+ year old scam (and STILL going strong). Otherwise known as god based religion.
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There are far too many who are scared of "The Truth", preferring instead to put their faith in lies, fiction and hokus pokus.
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Fear of being frightened is the worst fear of all.
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You may lead an unbeliever to church or a horse to water but you will neither make the horse drink nor the unbeliever pray.
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I can no more prove that God doesn't exist than theists' can disprove the existance of Santa Claus. But commonsense tells me that neither exists.
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There are NO gods. I'd stake my life in the Hereafter on it.
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Life is for living, death is for dying. End of.
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There is infinitely more proof to put before the judge regarding the case for evolution than there ever will be for the biblical creation claim.
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It isn't up to me the atheist to prove gods false, it's up to you the theist to prove gods true.
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Religion: Placebo acme.
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I've witnessed public displays of loyalty and faith in God or Allah. Just before the rucksack bomb of the devout soul explodes in the crowded bus, train, plane or shopping mall. Most laudable.
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I've already rewritten the Old Testament after removing all the lies, fairy tales and other bullshit. I wrote it on the back of a cigarette packet. There's lots of room left over on that cigarette packet to rewrite the New Testament AND the Koran.
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What in Hell's name has any god got to do with our destiny?
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Why would any god create the universe and then wait around for 14 billion years before creating Man? Idiots!!
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Atheists are in the minority (at the moment) just like Round Earthers were at one time.
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Gods (note the plural) only exist in the mind. Much the same as fairies, goblins, a honest politician and the Loch Ness Monster.
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The majority of people once believed that the Earth was flat; a new sun was born every morning and died in the ocean at night; planets were wandering stars; we were the centre of the universe and a god created Man.
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We don't have to be pious - or even theist - to be caring and to show kindness to others. The ability is with all of us whether we believe in fairy stories or are practical in our thinking.
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Just ask yourself this: "Why would God give us toenails?"
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I can accept the concept of religions but not the concept of gods.
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Piety breeds contempt.
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You will find that belief in witches and witchcraft STILL persists in some parts of the world. Very often this coincides with firm and popular belief in god(s), too.
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God is like your dog. Whether you pat him and praise him or kick him and curse him, he'll still love you. So why bother patting and praising him?

Note: No animals were hurt in the making of this quote.
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The pious theist is either lying, criminally bent on perpetuating falsehoods or seriously deluded.
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I once thought I knew everything there was to know about life, but then I left school. I now know a little more about life because I have lived a little more.
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The reason theism took off is because people DIDN'T have the answer to Life, The Universe and Everything. So some wise guy invented God and had his God create everything, which then made things orderly. It gave his life and everyones' life shape, form and finality. "God did it."

Nowadays we have much more knowledge of how we came to be here. Not - by any means - ALL the answers, but enough answers to enable us to realise that such talk of "God did it." is utter rubbish. One day this will become a popular reasoning and gods will dissipate into the ether where they are supposed to exist. Now THAT'S a paradox.
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No IFs, no DOUBTs about it. There's a far better chance of getting a noodle through the eye of a running camel than there is of there being a heaven to get into.
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I think sometimes, therefore I might be. (With apologies to Descartes.)
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Never kick an overtly pious man when he's down. Wait 'til he gets up... and knock him down again.
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Proverbs 18:2. "A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions." But theists don't like their bible contradicting, so they would say that, wouldn't they?

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

So, if I offer up my child for sacrifice in MY name I will be doing the right thing.
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For the first few billion years of Earth's evolution, through the development of single cell life, bacteria, multi cell sea creatures and plants; fish; land animals; birds; bats and most other living things, there were no deities. Then along came Modern Man just a few thousand years ago and Lo! God was created in Man's own image!
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Shithouses are more useful than churches!!!
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What theists' cannot grasp is that when gods were invented and god's creation was thought up; there was no other way to explain our being here. Nobody had even an inkling as to just how ancient the world - let alone the universe - was. Nobody knew anything about plate tectonics, dinosaurs, planets, DNA, the genome, microbiology or Darwinian Science. The elders at the time would have been stumped for answers to the many questions put to them. So They had to invent a fall guy and that fall guy was GOD.
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We are each of us born atheist and each of us has to be taught a religion. It's only later - as we mature and become wiser - that we have the ability to make up our own minds and return to our atheism if we deem it fitting.
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We believe in the god that we are brought up to believe in. Had you been born to a Muslim, been abondoned or otherwise separated from your mother and been adopted as a new born babe to brought up by a devout Christian family, you would (most likely) be a Christian. Conversely, you might also have been adopted by another Muslim family, a Jewish family or any other type of religious group and you would (most likely) be a follower of THEIR faith.

I was born Church of England, raised as a Christian, taught Christian ways and married a Christian. But by middle age I saw the light and abandoned ALL belief in ALL gods. The reason? Well look no further than this message. We are ALL born atheist but we are ALL taught to pray to different gods in accordance with local and familial beliefs.
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Snake Oil salesmen and Bible Thumpers. There's no difference whatsoever.
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Many world renowned scientists and other great thinkers professed a belief in God because they knew which side their bread was buttered. AND they also valued their liberty and life.
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Someone suggested that MOST people who go to church go NOT because of religion but because its more of a social club.

So why not go to a social club or a pub? They are much warmer, more comfortable and they don't preach at you.
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No god is any better than yourself. You can do anything - AND MORE - that any acclaimed god can do. Have faith in yourself, your family, your friends and your neighbours. Build up a cache of fond memories of yourself to leave behind and you will live on for all eternity.
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Each man/woman is an island. If they need bridges they will build them.
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The Church is the last refuge of scoundrels as dyslexia is often the last refuge of the semi-literate.
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MAN builds gods, gods don't build MAN.
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The bibles and holy books can be likened to Flat-Pack Furniture assembly instructions. They are there purely as a guide for those who otherwise wouldn't have a clue how to put it together. Occasionally those instructions are wrong or there's a piece or two missing.
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God. A theist's version of the bogeyman.
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A drowning man will cling to anything for support. But with only a straw or praying at hand, I'd always choose the straw.
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An atheist is someone who believes that everything came from nothing and started about 15,000,000,000 years and no gods had a hand in it.

A theist is someone who believes that everything was made by God from nothing in just six days, less than 10,000 years ago.

You have a choice.
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The Holy Books can be likened to the out of date instruction manuals that we keep in a drawer - long after the gadget has been confined to the trash can.
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I once put the question: "Why did God give us toenails?" while alluding to the fact that our toenails are remnants of claws from our earlier ancestry.

Seeing as how we were purportedly made by God in God's image I might also ask: "Does God have toenails?"
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As if the world didn't have enough to contend with with one series of incestuous relationships (Adam and Eve et al) he then goes and forces another series of incestuous relationships upon us with Noah and his lot (his wife appears not to have a name).
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I can hardly wait for my day of reckoning when I shall be proved right. Though none will be any the wiser for it, including me.
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People in general are the eternal masochists. How else could one explain their love of an evil god?
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Most people accept the words of others because it's easier than arguing. This includes accepting fable as fact, supposition as truth and scientific discovery as lies.
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Mankind is still in its infancy. We have a long way to go before we catch up with the baboon's time on Earth.
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Someone once said something like: "If gods didn't exist, we would have to invent them." I never could understand the meaning of that.
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If you want something to believe in, believe in yourself.

Ego is only one letter short of God, yet much more reliable and vastly more believable. There IS only one true god and that god is Ego. Ego can do anything - and more - than ANY other god can do. Worship Ego. Praise be to Ego.

Just don't let Ego run away with you.
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A god has no power, other than that of its followers.
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I do believe that the list of memorable things about us that we leave behind is exactly the same Afterlife that theists value the most.
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Of the estimated 3,000,000,000,000 (3 trillion) other planets in our galaxy, do you not think that there may be at least one other planet that has more advanced life forms than here on Earth? There's no mention of it in the holy books.
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I believe, by and large, that theists are afraid of their fate while true atheists are not.
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14,000,000,000 years BC (Before Commonsense) our universe was born.

If an entity created it, then why did that creator kick his heels for the next 13,999,900,000 years or so before creating Man?
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I'm in the process of getting published a "Holy" book in opposition to ALL the other holy books. It will have no mention of gods in it. No fairytales. No miracles. No wanton murder of innocents or any other sadistic violence. No ridiculous promises of life hereafter and no threats of eternal damnation if you - the reader - don't believe in what it says in the book.

I hereby offer you this pre-publication manuscript for your perusal.

Here is the manuscript. It's between the brackets: [ ]
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There's a strong thread that binds the pious and the mentally deficient. How else could one explain their hearing of voices, their seeing of visions and their ignorance in having faith in fairy tales?
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The basic difference between we atheists and those theist cults is determined by the use of just one letter. The 'ell should be kicked out of the cults with an "n" used in its stead. It would lead to a more fitting discription.
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It isn't the love of money that is at the root of all evil, it is the love of God.
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We may be just humble men (and women) but we are more mighty than the mightiest of gods.

Gods don't plant bombs and poison in the bodies and mouths of men (and women), they haven't the wherewithal. MAN does god's work. MAN cures the sick. MAN kills!!!

No god has power to do anything. Those who fear god are fearful of themselves and MAN.
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Jesus HAS to have a good sense of humour. Crickey, some of those stunts he pulled to gain attention will remain some of the best ever.

Talked with God ✔
Fed the multitudes with a few loaves and fishes ✔
Turned water into wine ✔
Cured lepresy ✔
Allowed a blind man to see ✔
Walked on water ✔
Claimed devine status and was accepted ✔
Arose from the dead ✔

Penn and Teller? David Copperfield? Tommy Cooper? They were all rubbish at the side of him.
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If God is everywhere and all seeing then why do we require vast expenditure on places of worship? It would appear that theism is more about real-estate than about religion.
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Are not these promised virgins - that await those who sacrifice themselves and murder in his name - also God's children? It seems strange to me that he would offer such innocents up to be debauched as some sort of reward for the murderous being faithful unto him.
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Religion is based on mass hallucination. The more who believe, the more who will believe. This COULD be made to work in the opposite direction. The more who DISbelieve, the more who will DISbelieve.
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I just ask that folk THINK. To think rationally. We human beings are merely the latest stage in the evolution of the family of primates. Nothing less and certainly nothing more. Why do so many otherwise rational people think we are such special apes that we deserve an afterlife? No other living creature on Earth gets to go to this propounded heaven so why should we?
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I've never sought to deny that Jesus was a man or that he existed. All I would deny is that he was the son of a god.
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A few thousand years ago, theism ousted commonsense. I like to think that commonsense is having a resurgence.
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People will profess to believe the words of the bible, but only the words they CHOOSE to believe. How hypercritical is that? That's like playing a game to the rules but only to the rules one agrees with.
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The goddists' challenge me, saying: "You speak of Man evolving from the ape, but where is this missing link?"

To that I have to say that THEY are the missing link.
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Catholicism and The Mafia have very strong ties and similarities in propagating their respective fear. It can't be coincidence, either, since both bodies originated in the same area on Earth. There is very little difference between the two. Each promote fear to gain money and penance from their targets with the threat of punishment.
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It's reckoned that most theists have it that although there may be many religions, there's only the ONE god. THEIRS I presume.
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Creationists' should believe in evolution, for haven't the holy books themselves evolved over time?
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Up until the age of about nine or ten I believed in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus and God. I was encouraged in this belief by those whom I trusted. Parents, relatives, teachers and the preachers.

By the time I was eleven I became dissuaded in my belief in Santa and the Tooth Fairy by those very same people. But nobody tried to dissuade me from my belief in God. In fact that belief was stressed to me. I must have faith..... or else.

But there isn't one pennyworth of difference between Santa, the Tooth Fairy or God. All are fables and if God is fable then so too is Jesus and Christianity.
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Earth's populous will dismiss whatever findings arise in regard to evolution. After all, our universe is only a few thousand years old at the most, in their reasoning. Infinite wisdom is more than matched by infinite ignorance.
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The Holy Bible has flourished into becoming the best selling book in promoting one of the most popular religions the world has ever known while at the same time contradicting scientific fact.
How come they can pick or choose to ignore scientific fact when it pleases them? It's hypocrisy such as this that perpetuates lies and even DAMN LIES that are at the root of ALL religion.

If all reference to gods can be removed from the holy books I would not see anything wrong with religion. Holy Joes and places of worship could be allowed to carry on with their wedding and funeral services etc and we could carry on living out our lives without gods and without any detriment.
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If I go for a walk with a pious man, I always walk on the side away from the traffic.
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I sincerely believe that the KJV of the bible should be re-evaluated and all references to gods, angels, devils, creation and miracles etc should be edited out and the more accurate and concise version issued free with Cornflakes. In fact, what's left could be written on a cornflake.
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Imagine for one moment that the bible didn't exist. Imagine some aspiring author writing it today.

I have a theory that if that old testament bible was offered up by some unknown writer for publication today, it just wouldn't get past the censors on a number of counts.

Too much cruelty. Few (if any) believable characters. Too much gratuitous sex and violence. sodomy, incest and paedophilia. No real story line. No feasible beginning, lax plots and continuity in the middle, and an end that's left to the reader to decide.

The type would have to be unreadably small as well. If the typeset is any bigger, no one would is be able to pick it up. That's probably why early editions had to be housed in specially constructed buildings.
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Contradictions in terms come easy to the morbidly pious. I wish they'd make up their tiny minds as to whether God is doing them a favour when he takes them or whether the favour is done when he deigns to save them.
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Many would have us believe that our Earth-while existence is merely a warm up period for what is to come in the afterlife. The beauty of it is, not one of them will feel the shock of disappointment.
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As a declared atheist, people will often ask; "But can you PROVE there is no God?"

But why should I have to PROVE a fairy tale to be untrue when I KNOW it isn't true?
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Theists think that this life is just a rehearsal for a promised better life after death.

The pity is that after their demise they'll never know that what they had was the real thing.
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As a child I prayed every night for a bicycle. I eventually realised it wasn't working so I stole one and then prayed to God for forgiveness. Anon.
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I'm only a mere mortal and yet I can do anything any god can do.
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Speaking as a realist, why should I put my trust in ANYONE who helps perpetuate lies?
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Whether or not you expect a life in the hereafter, you won't be disappointed.
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We Plough The Field And Scatter.

Religion is the land.
The church is the plough.
The priest is the seed.
The holy book is the corn.
Damnation is the mill.
The offertory is the flour.
The people are the chaff.
Faith is the wages.

Amen.
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The only difference between being placed in the shade and protected, and being kept in the dark and stifled is the intensity of the light.
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Theist: "Why won't you believe in God?"

Atheist: "Because you won't believe in me and yet I believe in you."
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The only REAL difference between theists and atheists is that theists are a little way behind in their evolution.
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Mark Twain's books were works of fiction, right? They weren't indecent or pornagraphic or too violent and yet some of them aluding to God and the bible stories were banned, right?

Yet the bible is fiction. The bible contains pornographic and violent accounts and much of it is indecent, right? Why wasn't/isn't the bible banned?
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Try asking a devout man this:

"Which would you choose to save from certain annihilation; Your beloved family or your theism?"
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Hypocrisy is simply failing to practice those virtues that one preaches.

I never fail to practice my atheism so I cannot be hypocritical. QED
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And the Lord said: "LET THERE BE LIGHT." And lo, ATHEISM was born.
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Praying to any god can be likened to pissing in the wind, and you'll get just as much back.
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The truth will always out in the end.
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If we were to travel as far out as our nearest star (not our sun) and look back, our planet would be invisible even to the most powerful optical telescope known to man. That fact alone should prove to some that the many other planetary systems are un-detectable in our own galaxy, never mind out beyond our galaxy.
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I choose to show more respect to the meekest human than to the most almighty of gods, for my fate may be in their human hands but never in his.
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A theist is only an atheist who's brain hasn't fully developed yet.
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Heroin; Cocaine; Barbiturates; Methadone; Alcohol; Ketamine; Benzodiazepines; Amphetamines; Tobacco; Buprenorphine; and all other dangerous drugs are as nothing compared to RELIGION. THE most dangerous drug known to Man.
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I swear to God, I'm not a theist!
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The vast majority of god-fearers are just that. They are frightened to question religion.
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One shouldn't be frightened to accept that there is no god, rather one should be glad that there is no devil.
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God would have had to be either a rapist who craftily drugged his victims or a tosser who provided his own sperm and got Mary pregnant using a turkey baster while she was sleeping. How else does one explain Mary getting pregnant with his child and her not knowing anything about the inception.
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If there IS heaven it will be hell. Full of smug theists saying: "I told you so."
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If there is only ONE god then it's obvious that he's a freak.
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Terrorism, how DO we stop the world from meltdown? How DO we tackle this religion inspired problem? The only serious answer I can come up with is a joint effort to educated and persuade these people that gods do not exist! That gods are the invention of Man and men have written the revered holy books in much the same way as you or I could write fiction.
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I fully support the creationist theory. I believe that MAN created gods.
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God forbid I should find religion.
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Masturbation is true altruism: No pregnancy worries; No risk of STDs; No disappointment through sexual inadequacy; No rape; and NO guilt - unless you're theist.
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"All things bright and beautiful, all creatures great and small........ The flea, the mosquito, the midge, the parasitic worms, cancers, bubonic plague, fevers, the locust, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Osama Bin Laden......... The Lord God made them all."
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DEATH! The ultimate in Sloth.
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Theism! I don't BELIEVE it!
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To speak of religious science is a contradiction in terms.
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You have only one life so make the most of it.
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Creationists' reckon that we all spring from Adam and Eve. Evolutionists' reckon we spring from earlier primates.

Well, I - for one - would much rather believe I was born of apes that evolved, rather than from a string of incestuous relationships.
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The Biblical account of Creation is all a bit vague. How long ago did all this "creation" take place? 5,000 years? 50,000? 500,000? 5,000,000? 50,000,000? 500,000,000? 5,000,000,000? 15,000,000,000?

Whereas science can give some order to the birth of the Universe and evolution, creationist's cannot. According to the scriptures it was all done and dusted within a week. Challenged on this the pious will come back with:

"Aaaah, yes, but a week could be any length of time for God." D'oh!

I've heard of a week being a long time in politics but fourteen billion years to create the universe et al being described as one week?! Get away, god lovers!
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The temples and churches et al are often built of sedimentary rock of ages. Ages pre-dating any foretold god's creation date by many eons. Close examination of the stone will reveal the skeletons of creatures that died those eons ago, holding up the edifices that in turn hold up the lies.
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Some one asked: "Would SIN exist if there were no GOD?"

To my mind, SINNING means doing something that one fundamentally KNOWS is improper. We don't require guidance from some imagined entity to explain to us what is right and what is wrong. Even the dog at the hearth knows the difference between what is right and what is wrong 'cos WE let it know. Yet there is nothing in the words of "god" that tells us how a dog should behave.
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Some theist's predict that society would break down completely without faith in God, but they would say that, wouldn't they?
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Admitting oneself to be atheist is NOT akin to joining a group that share an idea with no concrete evidence. I believe the Earth is round and not flat. That doesn't put me in opposition to the ridiculous Flat Earth Society. Gods and they should be dismissed out of hand by any realist worth his/her salt.
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Never feel the need to apologise for being an atheist. It's theists who should be doing that, for perpetuating lies.
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When the rest of the world finds out that gods are just manifestations of Man's imagination, I would hope that these magnificent places of worship are not knocked down. They would make really great posh hotels for the use thereof. Just as long as the rooms don't contain any bibles.
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Feel free to quote me on that and on anything else in this blog.

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Faith and Godalmighty.

Faith?

This is a token of my faith in faith.

Just ‘cos I don’t believe in God, doesn’t mean that I believe that others’ should not believe.

For I believe in faith. I believe that believing can help many engender faith.

I also believe that my having no belief in God doesn’t belie me that faith.

Faith in God alone may get us through life, but faith in our families, friends and fellow man - for me - transcends that faith, to better ease the pain.

If others’ place God higher than those three f’s then so-be-it,
but if you were God would you want it that way?

I doubt it, believe me. Anthony W. Allsop 1940 – 20??



God almighty?

Don't make me laugh. Whenever I have raised the pro-atheist-anti-god argument I have been slammed for:

"....not being educated enough to voice my opinions on such highfalutin matters." and:

"....that sort of reasoning should be best left to the upper echelon in society, judges, politicians, scholars and their like."

But, only a few hundred years ago, Witch Finder Generals' were appointed and tasked to organize witch hunts, find the old crones regarded as witches: "Every old woman with a wrinkled face, a furrowed brow, a hairy lip, a gobber tooth, a squint eye, a squeaking voice or scolding tongue, having a rugged coat on her back, a skull-cap on her head, a spindle in her hand and a dog or cat by her side, is not only suspect but pronounced for a witch"
(John Gaule in “Select Cases of Conscience).

They would “try” them by various means, such as “ducking stool justice” (if they survived the ducking stool, i.e.: they didn't drown - ergo it proved them to be witches - they would then be burned at the stake).

These Witch Finders would have been appointed by the "upper echelon in society", judges, politicians, scholars etc. who were "best suited" to make such decisions. And of course religion is dictated by such people.

Witches, wizards, elves, fairies, ghosts, leprechauns, pixies, goblins AND gods, are all imaginary manifestations which have been vouched for by such “highfalutin” society.

Why can't modern people see that, manifestly. We've given the Witch Finder Generals their marching orders, now what about our Church leaders.

Extraterrestrial observers beyond the dark side of our moon must be shaking with laughter at we silly Earth people, seemingly obsessed with religion. They - with their far superior intellect - will have kicked gods into touch many eons ago. So too would we Earthlings, given half a chance.

Imagine for one moment that we discover intelligent life on another planet far away in our galaxy. It isn’t too much of a stretch of our imagination, after all, we’ve been imagining far more ludicrous ethereal beings. They might well take the form of a large brained dolphin with arms, legs and three opposable digits on each limb.

Imagine conversing over the eons of space-time and ether with that intelligent life form and learning about its life history that draws many parallels with our own.

Imagine learning that despite them successfully forming a very advanced society - much BETTER than ours in many respects - that they have absolutely NO concept of gods or religion.

Do we gasp in amazement? Are they then to be regarded as inferior beings? Do we try to educate them to accept that there IS God?, for that is what happens here on Earth, where incidentally, we are the only species that worships and pays homage to gods.

That 'Other Life in The Universe?'

The 2007 discovery of an Earth like planet orbiting a star in our own galaxy - capable of supporting life - and ONLY 20.5 light years (120 trillion miles) distant was and is most uplifting, and might be of some interest to sci-fi buffs and space fanatics.

But don't let's get too fanciful. Even if we had a space-probe capable of travelling at an average speed of 1,000,000 mph it would take it 14 THOUSAND YEARS (approx) to reach the planet Gliese (named by Man) and in the interim of that journey, that probe will have probably been overtaken by many more, more advanced and faster probes.

So near and yet so, so far, but if the Glieseians on that planet exist and they know that we do too, they may be thankful for that 20.5 light-year space moat.

If all religious faith was allowed to be shown up for the instilled rubbish it is without fear of prosecution and persecution, many more Earthlings would come to their senses and see gods and religions for what they are. BUNKUM!

NB. If you feel an instant need to question my sanity then look no further than Man's present inhumanity to Man in the name of or under the present worldwide belief in some fanciful God or other.

Sigmund Freud had religion sussed when he denounced it as infantile bunkum. God didn't create Man. Man created God, in his own image of course.

If God IS responsible for the Grand Order of things, then why did he create the midge, mosquito and tsetse fly to flourish and then introduce Man hundreds of millions of years later to be plagued by them?

And if God created everything, why did he create the insidious diseases. He'd have to have been one mean, sick God. Maybe God is the propounded Devil incarnate.

It makes my heart bleed to read about the little children tortured in the name of "religion" for that is what cults the likes of witchcraft and voodooism are that appear to demand mutilation of children's genitalia.

The mutilation of male and female children. equates to a form of crucifixion. Similarly, the offering of sacrificial virgins etc. are all carried out in the name of some god or other.

In my opinion - and I'm in no way alone in my belief - God's religion has no part to play in the modern world. Superstition, witches, fairies, voodooism and gods et al, they are all by-products of overactive human imagination, programmed from birth to fear the unknown and the inexplicable.

From early childhood we are capable of summoning up convincing imaginary friends that sometimes take on form. This facility of the young underdeveloped brain also leads them to readily believe in the supernatural. They can be fooled quite easily into accepting “magic” performed by a stage magician rather than form judgments of their own. This innate ability of the human mind – for it to be assaulted and manipulated by others who hold sway in society, for gain - is what founded Man’s diverse religious teachings.

No projected god or religion has any more power than its band of followers.

The more supporters a religion has the more powerful its god is deemed to be. Where you find strife in today's world you will discover that some religious factions are making capital out of it.
It is high time that ALL religions were shown up for the "Old Hat" that they really are and to be given the order of the boot by the people.

I am positive that - should a referendum be held on this subject - many eyes would be raised at the outcome and those eyes wouldn't in truth be raised to any god.

Whilst reading a newspaper article: "Teachers axe God." I thought EUREKA! There is a god after all (irony) and the laws of blasphemy have finally been shown the door. I'd waited many a long year to see atheism, agnosticism and other realistic views discussed openly and in schools.

But don't let's go overboard here and risk turning these radical beliefs into another religion. I would hate to see agnosticism and atheism PREACHED as the alternative to faiths that so many people are comfortable with. And I also "pray" that these proposed changes in our schools' religious studies and teachings are not hijacked by the pious who are all too biased in their own God fearing beliefs, nor to radicals intent on subversion. I certainly wouldn't go along with the tenet that the teaching of atheism to our young should be the order of the day.

I am an unbeliever, a self taught radical. But to teach atheism, or any sort of anti-religion in schools would be tantamount to turning fundamentalism on its head. The danger being that this non-belief could turn in on itself and create yet another fanatical religious movement, devised and installed by a few through themselves being all TOO enlightened.

I am also a realist/atheist who happens to believe in the teachings associated with Jesus and Christianity. I believe that the man Jesus existed, had great control of people and came up with a great philosophy DESPITE rising above himself and having ideas well above his station (One can't rise much further above ones station than claiming to be the son of God).

Mind you, he would have to have been aided and abetted in his ambitions.

Imagine if someone made the same claim today. "I am God's child." He/she would most likely be accused of blasphemy and pilloried (ring any bells?) or he/she would be declared insane and ostracised by the "believing" but disbelieving throngs.

I have no argument at all with Christian teachings... especially since they have been monitored and modified over the many years since Jesus is purported to have come up with them.

I would STILL be a practising Christian..... if they took out the notion of an imagined god somehow impregnating a woman he had nothing to do with to produce some sort of hybrid human who would save the world from itself by willingly dying on a scaffold.

I firmly believe that:- No FORCED religious teaching should be conducted in our schools/colleges.

No form of secular brain washing of young and receptive minds conducted by the already brainwashed.

And NO persecution of ANYONE, whatever belief or non-belief they wish to choose to adopt, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the laws of the land or offend common decency.

Being an unbeliever does not make one a BAD person (see Faith).
During a debate (in my local over a pint) on atheism v theism I was asked the question; "Do you believe in Creation Theory or Evolution Theory.”

Straightaway, and without doubt, I plumped for Evolution.

"Then how do you explain how the Earth itself and all the rest of the universe came to be?” went the questioning.

Maybe he had a good point, but maybe he had naught. That stock question deserved the stock answer from me;

“If you’re saying that there was once absolutely nothing; then who, or what, created the creator?”

I’m not prepared here to enter into the world of meta and quantum physics or delve into the birth of the universe, or bang on about big bang theories and continual expansion or see-sawing of our dimension; I will stick to OUR world and the facts that evolutionists and other branches of science have put before us in an effort to explain that elusive inexplicable.

Here, for what it's worth, is my take on the creation recipe of life, from Earth-zero to Man:

It would take greater or lesser degrees of:- gravity + sunlight + shade + dark + temperature change + gasses + water + chemical reaction + pressure + calm + asteroid and meteorite impact + agitation + lightening + fire + chance selection + adaptation + necessity + natural selection + continental upheaval + 6,000,000,000 Earth-years of TIME (give or take) and lots of loving to bring about

Evolution!

And - if need requires - you can take the time element even further and multiply that figure of 6 billion Earth years by whatever figure you can ever imagine, for time is immeasurable. How can it be anything else?

So why DO otherwise intelligent people still believe in gods and their like? I suppose it’s a bit like asking why people continue to smoke. The answer to either is most likely to be HABIT closely followed by BLOODY MINDEDNESS. For religion went out with the ark and the use of tobacco products will doubtless follow.

Our Holy Scriptures were put together by mere mortals, not any god. When one sits down to read the Old Testament, seemingly every nuance of life is there, every argument against atheism is there and almost every base to uphold belief in god is covered. I suppose this is the same with the Koran and also Chairman Mao's Little Red Book. Forgive the pun but if you do find a chink in the text of the Bible, that base also will be covered in later editions (if it isn't guarded already by the dread laws of BLASPHEMY!)

That bit in our constitution about freedom of speech and freedom of the press has got lost somewhere along the line. It wasn't me who first said: "...publish and be damned!" but it might well have been.

We atheists/realists have suffered hard times at the hands of the pious throughout the ages. We have had threats of "eternal damnation" and "pits of fire and brimstone" shoved down our necks until we are sick. Can't people, or won't people see that - because of the laws against blasphemy - the church's argument is just a little bit one sided? Those expensively grand splendifferous places of worship were designed and built (built by the poorest in society) to gather congregations together for the collecting of protection money. Monies from the masses for their protection by God, OR ELSE!

A pious contributor (Reader's Digest) quotes: "......you don't find atheists doing great GOOD in the world."

Eh!? You also don't find atheists doing great BAD in the world.
When did you last see one band of atheists declare war on another band of slightly different atheists OR any other religious order?

NEVER!

When have we witnessed an atheist war anywhere in the world?

NEVER!

When did an atheist ever board a crowded airliner with a ticking bomb, a brand new box-cutter and a roll of duct tape in order to make a point?

NEVER!

Tragedy will happen, but much as I can sympathize with the victims I am getting sick and tired of many of the fortunate survivors of accidents and the most terrible disasters, when interviewed, immediately thank God that he/she has spared them. What has their survival got to do with God?

Imagine for one moment that a group of people are trapped on an upper floor of a blazing office block. Smoke and flames are all around and there is seemingly no chance of escape. Among the unfortunates is a happily married man who has four young children at home who all attend church regularly and dutifully say their prayers every night before getting into bed.

There are also three women who are all working to support their families who are also good, kind and God fearing.

There is one man who is a sneak thief who is there to see what he might steal. He beats his wife and abuses children and who, incidentally, has never set foot in church other than to steal the offertory money, strip it of lead or swipe the candlesticks.

Yet another of the trapped and panicking has devoted the whole of his working life to the Church while at the same time always looking after the less fortunate in society.

Naturally all the trapped people are praying like mad for divine intervention but who is their god going to choose to save?

You've guessed it. It is just as likely that when the abominable sneak thief's bloodied body is pulled out of the rubble, and barely alive, he'll be heard thanking God that he listened to HIS prayers.

Now pardon me but what about all the other more deserving or at the very least equally deserving souls who God allowed to perish? Weren't they praying hard enough?

But religion has this base covered too. The cry goes up:

"THEY'VE GONE TO A BETTER PLACE"

I could be one of those trapped in the office block. I'm a happily married family man. My wife for almost half a century and I have four grown up children. They are all happily married and have borne us twelve grandchildren who we adore and now one of those many grandchildren has children of his own. I am full of love for my fellow man and couldn't commit serious crime if my life depended on it.

So I COULDN'T go to a "better place".

God!? God has no place in my life. God doesn't exist and I wouldn’t give him her or it, the time of day. I have cancer, but I wouldn’t pray to God to cure it. After all, he/she or it could well have created that cancer in the first place.

Or would that odious task have been left to his sidekick.

Interests: My family and friends, long distance walking (though the distance bit is falling off as I get older), staying alive, sex (sorry, that's sax.) And trying to keep the wolf from the door and the fox from the dustbin. I'm also a MySpace devotee (or I was until they ballsed it up). Just Google me and see.

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